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01/09/2009, 3:59 PM GregRoy Joined on 31/08/2009 EGHH Posts 15 PPL to ATPL Hello, I have recently phoned BCFT (Bournemouth Commercial Flight Training). They have told me that it will cost around £44,000 to do PPL and Night rating aswell as my ATPL (excludes exam and test fees). I have a brochure on the way that has all the prices for the tests and exmas aswell as all the other items i will need. I just want to know how that price sounds compared to what you have seen? Has anyone ever used or heard about BCFT before? I didnt find out how many hours the ATPL takes and was wondering if any of you know? Is this the best way to become a commercial pilot? I understand that when i recieve my ATPL it will be frozen until i have 1500 flight hours is this correct? When i recieve my ATPL will i start at 0 hours or does all the training count? if so how many hours is that on average. Sorry if all these questions have been asked time and time again. Thanks Alot any more general information and help would really help to clear my mind up. Greg    Report

01/09/2009, 6:52 PM CFrost Joined on 04/01/2009 EGLK Posts 157 Re: PPL to ATPL "When i recieve my ATPL will i start at 0 hours or does all the training count?" Yes all trianing hours count    Report

13/09/2009, 8:17 PM Morbz Joined on 06/02/2007 UK Posts 263 Re: PPL to ATPL Hi Greg My names Steve, presently training with CTC Aviation doing exactly what you are looking to do.  Im on an integrated course which involves everything from PPL right up to ATPLf and a type rating on either an Airbus / Boeing, all for approximatly 70k, "sponsored" route too. The advice I might have for you is make sure you look around the big boy schools too, especially CTC, Oxford and FTE.  I take it the ultimate goal is to get in with an airline so if you can afford to do so, make sure you train with a company that has a good name and status with good employment records with the airlines.  The last thing you want to do is complete an expensive course only to find your stuck for a job and short of the 'extra' bits like airline specific training and preparation like the MCC etc - make sure you stand out from the crowd.  On that note however, as long as you have an ATPL at the end of a course you are able to apply for jobs and people still get them. Would you mind me asking how much you can realistically spend, also how old you are with perhaps a quick over view of your academic background?  The reason being because I speak highly of the place where I train, and they have some entry requirments you must meet to train with them- that is of course if you are interested to learn more about it (and also Im just curious!) You must fly 1500 hours before it becomes unfrozen yes, and the quickest you can do the course in is about 18 months providing everything goes well to graduate with the licenses in hand- there are specific hour requirments as per course type; modular / integrated.  Every training hour counts too, right from your first lesson.  So my advice to you is visit plenty of schools before you decide Bournmouth is the one, get yourself a place with one of the 3 I've just mentioned (if you are prepared to pay a little more) and work hard to get first time pass rates.  Other guys might slate me and say I am wrong here but I do know that employment is difficult and the better school you get with the better chance you have of gaining a job at the end of it- especially in a tricky econonomic climate, thats being honest.  If you need any specific info drop me a line as like I said it hasnt been long since I took the plunge myself! Morbz        Report

09/11/2009, 12:40 PM Birtie Boy Joined on 09/11/2009 1161 Christchurch Road Posts 2 Re: PPL to ATPL hello pilot, i just like to say i work for MI6 and im moving into a pilot side of things. Can anyone teach me how to fly a helicopter?    Report

11/01/2010, 2:23 PM Biddle Noob Joined on 11/01/2010 Posts 1 Re: PPL to ATPL hi im brad biddle i was wondering if anyone has a joystick that i can borrow because i need it to play flight sim x    Report

11/01/2010, 9:07 PM Aviator|Chris Joined on 28/01/2009 EGBW Posts 378 Re: PPL to ATPL  Biddle Noob wrote: hi im brad biddle i was wondering if anyone has a joystick that i can borrow because i need it to play flight sim x You could get one like the rest of us did.... by taking some of that money stuff down to your local computer shop and exchanging it for the magic stick!    Report

12/01/2010, 4:19 PM CFrost Joined on 04/01/2009 EGLK Posts 157 Re: PPL to ATPL ahhahha! Now now Chris lets be welcoming to fellow forum memebers :).    Report

12/01/2010, 6:00 PM Aviator|Chris Joined on 28/01/2009 EGBW Posts 378 Re: PPL to ATPL Personally, I don't tolerate cheekyness! 8o)    Report

12/01/2010, 8:37 PM hellomen Joined on 12/01/2010 Posts 3 Re: PPL to ATPL i could get a joystick and ram it up your bell end mate    Report

12/01/2010, 8:40 PM hellomen Joined on 12/01/2010 Posts 3 Re: PPL to ATPL your mum tolerated cheekyness when i got margarita's anne summers *** and rammed it up your dads ***. and your hat in the picture is a great place to store left over ***    Report

12/01/2010, 8:43 PM hellomen Joined on 12/01/2010 Posts 3 Re: PPL to ATPL i shoved your mums magic stick up her twat and she was screaming your name for some reason. do you *** your own mum and lick her ***??    Report

12/01/2010, 9:01 PM PilotMo Joined on 12/01/2010 Posts 9 Re: PPL to ATPL "i could get a joystick and ram it up your bell end mate" I'm not too sure that it would fit?    Report

13/01/2010, 9:06 AM A and C Joined on 12/07/2009 Posts 13 Re: PPL to ATPL Things are dire at the moment for those who want a flying job, the market has been flooded with low time pilots who have paid the likes of CTC, Cabair & Oxford for the zero to airliner package at a total cost of IRO £120,000. The problem is that the likes of Easy Jet and others are making you pay for line trainning and then when you are finaly line checked they give you a contract, THEY DONT EMPLOY YOU. This contract is paid by the flying hour, it all sounds good so far? The snag is that they have no incentive to have you fly for them and pay you as long as they can fill the seat with another person who is paying the airline for line training.   With the market as it is you would be unwise to enter into a training contract with those who are peddeling the flashy brochures. The way ahead at the moment is a slow path via a PPL at a flying club and then well chosen packages from the modular training providors, all this while you have a job to pay for it all. To quote the editorial in the front of Flight International this week. The way in which, today young pilots are expected toget their ab initio training is jus plain wrong- and the airlines know it. I feel truly sorry for those who have been duped into spending over £100,000 by the big integrated training providors, A post above from a person who is with one of these providors shows boundless enthusiasum and spins the company line very well but at the end he is unlikely to make enough money to pay the installments on a very large bank loan.       Report

13/01/2010, 2:44 PM bidsboy Joined on 13/01/2010 Posts 2 Re: PPL to ATPL hey i was wondering if you cud tell ur mum she was *** in bed so *** off dnt ave a go at biddle noob u fucking ***    Report

13/01/2010, 2:45 PM bidsboy Joined on 13/01/2010 Posts 2 Re: PPL to ATPL u fucking *** stop aving a go at biddle    Report

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